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 Post subject: Laminating material
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:23 pm 
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I've got a question:

I've come across a great material for laminating, reinforcing landing gear, struts and propellor/rotor blades and stuff.

It's a chip board like paper, the same stuff that the backings for writing pads are made of. The only difference is, it's only as thick as standard 110 cardstock.

The benefits over cardstock are: It has no grain. It absorbs glue like a sponge, so no worries about delaminating. If you double it up, it becomes stiff and inflexible (LG or Rotor application,). I haven't tried it, but I imagine if you saturated it with superglue, it'd become stiff as steel.

I've used it for the rotors in all the helicopters I've built, and the only sag is at the rotor hubs, where I didn't use it (D'oh).



Now, for what it is: I work in a fast food restaurant, and all the condiment cups we give to customers come in a box. This stuff is placed between each layer to protect the cups during shipping. We usually just throw it away, but I've been collecting it.

It comes in 8.5 x 11 size, same as standard cardstock
There are two types, a brown coarse fiber, probably about 120lb weight
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and a finer grain, which is stiffer, maybe about 140 to 180lb.


The question I have is: Would there be any interest in people buying it, if I were to offer to sell it?

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Yes!! I'd buy a bunch, looks like it could be used for a bunch o' other projects to...

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Yes--anything that is recylable should be--and if you can make a bit of beer and bait money in the process, all the better. Much better than it ending up in a landfill. I'd have no idea what the market price for such would be:, but it'd have to be enough to cover the costs of postage plus profit--with the caveat that it would have to be low enough in price to be attractive to the notoriously frugal card modeling community.

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And there's my problem. It also has to be competitive with just grabbing an extra sheet of cardstock. (It's way better performance wise)

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I'd be interested.


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does run through a printer?......or do you have to have to glue the lg to it the cut it out......sounds like you are on to something here.... :D

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So, what would be a reasonable price? I was thinking a nickel a sheet, but that seems too steep for some reason, but, I can only get about 5 to 10 sheets on days I work, so it's kinda rare.

And the white stuff is even rarer, because it only comes in one type of condiment box. Probably a dime a sheet for that.

Then I have to figure how to get money. I don't have paypal, or a checking account to link it to.

I might see if Chip can set up something through FG.

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please do that sounds very interesting! and at a dime a sheet I might even buy!


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hows about i just send you cash money for it........or a money order.....or something tot that effect??????? :D :D

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We could do that. I still need to think on a price to make it worthwhile, though.

At $0.05 a sheet, even if you ordered 20 sheets, that's still only $1.00.
And 20 sheets shipping would be more than a dollar.

Would anybody object to $0.25 a sheet?

1 sheet will last a long time, depending on what your building. With FG models you could build 7 or 8 models per sheet (reinforcing struts, LG, props, etc), less if they're helo's. A non-FG model with formers will use more.

Plus, the white card has a semi gloss finish on one side, so it might have model RR applications.

I liked the online payment, because I don't have to wait for money before I can send it out.

Paypal is out, though, cause somebody pirated my account, and I'm blocked from Paypal. Hmm...

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I wonder?..... could you ues it for a foamie?


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Dunno. What's a foamie?

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It's a flying model made from (styrene, I think) foam, instead of the more traditional balsa wood and tissue construction.


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That's what I thought it was. I just had to make sure.

I did some experimenting with the white card, and discovered it does have a grain, which is the same as standard cardstock, vertical. It can be rolled, but only to about a 1.5 inch diameter tube, before crumpling starts.

It's pretty heavy stuff, I think about 130 to 160 lb.

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Not trying to bust up a possible revenue stream but I wonder if it's the same thin pasteboard the US Post Office uses for its express envelopes (which are available free for the taking at any US Post Office). You're right, it's very useful for certain strengthening applications where cereal box pasteboard is too heavy. A disadvantage of the Post Office envelopes is they're only clear on one side (not a problem, though, if used as internal stiffening). I'd be curious to find out if your dividers are the same thickness as USPS express envelopes but stiffer.


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