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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:06 am 
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Friends!

Aaron asked me to put together also some versions of the Mariner, kit recently released by him. No need to speak the pleasure it gives me this task, considering my thread I have a triple task I have A prototype of PBM-5A (or turreted version), PBM-5A production machine (overall noturnal blue - the same kit of Papermate build) and a mod for PBM-5 Airboat version (I believe soon is avaliable).

The Oddball gave me a pleasure that is almost a direct connection to my childhood and all that characterized. Gone there for the second half of the 70s, one of the first plastic kits I got was just the ancient Revell Martin Mariner of the next on a scale of 1/158. For specialists in plastic models, today is a vintage product, typical of the beginning of the modeling industry in the 50s and 60s. But the time for me was what woke me up for modeling. It's a hobby education, self-education, introspection. And it happened thanks to my grandmother, who gave me the day of the child (one popular Catholic holiday in Brazil, occurs on the 12th of October which is also the day of the patron saint of Brazil, Nossa Senhora Aparecida) today is usual gifting children with rides and toys, I follow the tradition today with my daughters.

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Me and Maria Eduarda in last Child day in Redenção Park in Porto Alegre

Assemble PBM papermodel is an old dream that Oddball is performing, is a reminder of a time and loved ones who are no longer here. Thank you Aaron.

On the model, in its different versions is a very typical product of the last models of Oddball. Fine textures, simple assembly and objective without formers, the model has hatches for landing gear, considering the work already done by Papermate, is a model that when finalized, either in its original scale (1/63) or at smaller scales as 1/100 or 1/200 will attention.

About Martin Mariner:

The Martin Mariner was one of the great airboats developed in the United States in the second half of the 30s. It was designed and built from the need for a U.S. Navy patrol airboat great autonomy that would complement the operations of the PBY Catalina that had entered the service in 1935.

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The Model 162 was designed by the company Glenn L. Martin and was in his time one of the most advanced designed airboats. To test the prototype of what would be the future Mariner, Martin created a scale model 3/8 of size manned by one man, just called Model 162A "Tadpole Clipper" because many characteristics of the aircraft were unprecedented in their category.

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When entered service in 1940 through the PBM-1 versions with the squadron VP-55 was one of the most modern seaplanes in the world.

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With the onset of World War II, new versions were built as the PBM-3 with R-2600 engines and better weapons and more numerous PBM-5 with radar and complet ASW equipment. During the war, the Mariner were used for a wide variety of missions, although they have been prominent in anti-submarine warfare in the Atlantic is responsible for the sinking of at least ten Axis submarines, one of them here on the coast of Brazil.

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Some specimens were acquired by Australia that used as cargo planes and troop transports and other 32 were for Royal Navy than those used operationally, and returned to the USA (The seaplane even as airboat is one of the most expensive to produce).

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After the War few operators used Martin Mariner: Argentina and Uruguay, and in this last until the second half of the 1970s. And the Netherlands Navy for a short period of time, in Dutch New Guinea.

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The PBM-5 and 5A of the U.S. Navy became involved in several dangerous situations, often being intercepted by fighters of the Warsaw pact, especially Soviet and Chinese in the Pacific Ocean at the edge of the territorial waters of the USSR and China. Many of these missions were secret. The most famous incident involving the PBM-5 is the rescue of Flight 19 in the Bermuda Triangle, this action this Mariner send for rescue the TBM's crew was also lost.

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In the next post I started the builds. :mrgreen: 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:11 am 
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I start the builds. I made in the first steps the frontal fuselage outside bottom hull. The part of nose is pretty complicated to build but with patience is a easy work.

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The turreted version is need cut the tip of fuse, I build today the PBM-5 mod, in the next steps I made the floor of frontal turret...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Any chance we will see this up for download before Christmas. The Mariner is a beautiful bird like the Pan Am Clippers of so very long ago. I wish I was around to see them take off from SF Bay. That had to have been a site to see. There I go again. Sorry. wc


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:04 pm 
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Thank's Wad

About release in FG I not know I believe you ask Scott and Aaron to know.

Well friends!

Time to resume the builds. I made a some steps in both versions and made features of turreted versions.

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I cut and made a floor of frontal turret in PBM-5 and PBM-5A prototype.

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Three fuses note the nose of PBM-5A is more slin...

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After I made boat lower hull, is a sensitive part, I prefer glue segment by segment in the fuse, note the curvature...

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The results at the moment...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:28 pm 
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I really like flying boats so I too am looking for it to be released.

As usual, you are doing a great job on the build, and I am following it closely.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:03 pm 
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It's the twin tail with it's tilt in angle that I love to much. I too am very interested in this model and how the build goes. Your doing an outstanding job on her. Very nice on how it's coming along. Keep it going. wc


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:44 pm 
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Thank's my friends! :mrgreen:

Sorry for lack of updates, but is time to uploaded some progress in the PBM's

I not have many time for builds in the last week, I focused in front turrets of PBM and nose wheel compartiment.

I start from turrets from PBM-5 and Proto of PBM-5A

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The fit in the fuselage need some adjustaments, but not complicated.

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After I made wheel compartiment, is a easy task, the secret is open compartiment with new and sharp #11 blade...

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After dry I add weight in the nose (alerted by Papermate build) I use big clips gluing with foam glue, I need wait one day for cement dry...

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The main aspects of build in front fuselages finished, I star the middle...

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Until the next update, I hope soon...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:05 pm 
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Those are some nice looking nose sections. I thought it odd that you would use paper clips as nose weights, then I realized just how small these are. Well done! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:21 am 
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Thank's Willygoat!

But the paper clips is a big size Nº 2 ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:39 am 
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More updates in the builds.

In the last week I not have much time for modelling. And Martin Mariner fuselage is complex, because this a made in slow motion the part, but the design of model is excellent and a good solutions for capture the shape of plane...

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I made the wheel recesses for the PBM-5As...

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I gluing with careful the pieces, and rest dry some hours.

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Gluing of segment, note I made anf glue first the section of fuselage, botton I gluing side by side after...

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The results at the moment...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:27 pm 
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Gomidefilho any new updates on the Mariner? Also any word if or when it will be released through FG? Just asking as I know with Christmas almost upon us and how we all go crazy at this time of the year.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:48 am 
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Hi Wad

I'm still working in PBM sets, but I believe the model is not avaliabe in FG. In two or three days I update with final build pics.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:10 pm 
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Beside a delay in publish updates, I full working in all month in my series of PBM's

I focused first in ended fuselages, is a complex task but not difficult if made with calm.

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After I made the rear turrets in PBM-5 and 5A Prototype...

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Aspects of finish fuselages...

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I Glue canopys...

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After dry I made central support wings.

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I start the undercarriage pieces and for airboat version I made with 220g colored paper a support.

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Continue...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:16 pm 
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I made the tail, is easy because a internal suports...

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I start the mid turrets in PBM-5 and 5A proto...

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I made a radar radome, the early antenna is pretty complicated build.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:27 pm 
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I made the braces and wings... Carefull with gull arrangement...

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I start for inner sections...

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I gluing wing roots, is a sensible task, the secret is glue side by side...

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After dry I made the external wings.

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Gluing...

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After I made the tails, is careful to made a volumetric form.

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Is not easy work with three big planes... ;)

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Continue...

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