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 Post subject: B-25 Mitchell
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:12 am 
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Why? Well probably greatest Medium bomber of WW2 (arguably)
Also - came in a variety of models from C to J
Also also - can be made in a variety of markings - USAAC, USN (PBJ), RAF (UK based and desert camo), RAAF, Russian.
Also also also can be glass nosed or solid (strafer) nosed for more paint variety.
Also also also also its just a damned cool plane, and lotsa flat surfaces for easy modelling

just my opinion of course. If I were to try my hand at using pepakura I'd take my B-25c that I made for the X-plane flight simulator, load it through Blender then save as AC3D format, then simplify the shapes some and save as .3ds that can be loaded into pepakura. Hmmm.....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:38 am 
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At one point, it was listed as being "In Progress" on this site. Since the site was revamped, many of the models listed as being in progress are no longer listed. (I'd like to see it, too. :mrgreen: )

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:19 pm 
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I myself don't like trying to reinvent the wheel.

If there are already some good models of a particular plane out there, I don't see much point in creating another. Steve Bucher has a really nice B-25B, that he produced several years ago. You should do a search for it, get a copy and build it: I don't think you'd be disappointed by the quality of his model.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:17 pm 
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Steve's site, digital card models, seems to be gone but I have traced the model to

http://www.e-papermodels.com where its still listed as 4 EUR

big puppy too, says its 1:32 scale! Wheee...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:36 pm 
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The nice thing about large models is that you can scale them down to just about any size you want....whereas, a small model is difficult to scale upwards. At 4 Euro's ((a bit over $5) its quite afordable.....right in the range of FG's bombers.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:19 am 
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I got the kit today, turns out its 1:48 not 1:32 but that still makes a nice size kit. Comes on 9 sheets so its got quite a few bits,but no joiner tabs -I'll have to make joiner splicers but with all those butt joints, should make up nice.

early war era paint scheme - say around Doolittle raid.

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 Post subject: FG's B-25 ... why not?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:11 am 
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I myself don't like trying to reinvent the wheel.
If there are already some good models of a particular plane out there, I don't see much point in creating another.


Thinking that way we would still be living in caves ... we would still be around driving Fort T's and wars would be fought with Camels and Albatros ... hey, that'd be great! :wink:
Now seriously ... I think each company has the right to publish it's own models, no matter who has done that before them. Many WW2 planes have been published by different companies, so we (customers) have the opportunity to chose.
Personally, I'd love to see FG's B-25 ... the Doolittle raid scheme, maybe? It would fit perfectly with the educational touch of FG!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:37 am 
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Howzit

I agree with Mauri, each company should produce their own version if possible. The FG format is easily accessible and caters for both beginners and experienced modelers. An FG B-25 would be awesome.

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If Steve's model was poor--I'd agree with you--a better version would be a good endeavor. But it's a really fine kit. I was in the middle of doiing an F11F, but Kancho's version came out, and was so good I felt I couldn't improve upon it--so I put mine in the bottom of my stack, and instead did the Fury...I can focus my efforts on some other under or un-represented models. My goal is to add models that are less frequently found. There is enough WW2 fighter art out there to flill a hard drive...while most of the cold war era jets are scarce...the between the wars era is another gold mine of underr eprested aircraft....although not my favroite genre. I'd rather do an A-3 Skywarrior, than another Spit, Mustang or Corsair.

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Go Rob! Go Rob! Go Rob!

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 Post subject: Fg's B-25
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:37 am 
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True Rob ... you got me in there. Still, FG has a reputation now that could attract many buyers to it's own B25 version, even if it was at least as good or simply not worst than the one you mention ...
Btw, between wars is in fact my favourite subject and I am starting some designs by my own which I hope will be published some day: Curtiss Seagull, Nakashima Dave, Sikorsky S-39, ... lovely period! I adore floatplanes as the represent a romantic and long time gone era of discovery and constant progress ...

Warm regards from Spain, Rob :)


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Rob wrote:
If Steve's model was poor--I'd agree with you--a better version would be a good endeavor. But it's a really fine kit. I was in the middle of doiing an F11F, but Kancho's version came out, and was so good I felt I couldn't improve upon it--.


Howzit.

I fully agree. You say cold war jets and between the wars are underrated, absolutely. When my university work slows down, it's back to designing the Mirage F1 and OV-10 Bronco.

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Ah... speaking my language, most certainly. I'd love to see more early jets like the F2-H2 Banshee and FH-1 Phantom to go with the Panther. Pirate and Skynight too, oh, and the AJ-1 Savage! Must have that.. a propellor powered nuclear attack bomber.. I kid thee not. There's something about trying to outrun the blast from a thermo-nuke, even if it was parachute retarded, in a plane powered by two props and a small jet that appeals to me for the sheer insanity of it. The bomb wasnt the only thing retarded in the design, you ask me. :D
Savage's later were used as firebombers.
I made one for x-plane... say I was looking for a design to tinker with for a self made twin engine model.. hmmm.

Anyway, my other passion is golden age/interwar stuff... love to see a Northrop A-17 or a Curtiss A-12 Shrike.
ahhh so many great aircraft... SO little time.

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Rob wrote:
I'd rather do an A-3 Skywarrior, than another Spit, Mustang or Corsair.


I'd have to agree. At first, I thought there wasnt a lot of card models around - but... a few hours on the internet showed me the error of this thinking - OI! To where, when it came to WW2 stuff, I was hard pressed to think of a plane to tinker with that hadnt been done. Even obscure stuff like the Vultee P-66 has been done. Of course there are lots that havent, still, but of the main stream stuff there's oodles - and of the popular stuff like spits, stangs, etc etc theres enough variety now both in size and skill required that we dont need more.

Some of you know more of what's available than I - just off the cuff can anyone confirm if the following have been made?

North American AJ-1 Savage
Lockheed Vega (single engine 30s era) also Sirius, Altair, Orion?
Fairchild C-119
Douglas A-20 Boston Havoc

there doesnt seem to be one site that has all models made, in order to get an idea from one source. Or, have I missed it?

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I've seen an A20 Havoc somewhere--there's no vendor who carries everything---PMI has a lot of obscure models, of some of the other planes, I don't believe they've been modeled. However, I'm in daily contact with a lot of the actual planes, like the Savage, Skynight, Vigilante, Skywarrior, Banshee, Tracker, Trader, Tracer, etc as I do my volunteer work in the restoration hangar. Also a lot of the big stuff, like EC-121, P5M, PB4Y, and old stuff like PBY's PBJ's PV's and the venrable JRB. My current model projects are the Lockheed XF-90 F-105, and the A3 Skywarrior--all to be done in 1/48 scale. My current resto (real plane)project is the Douglas A-26 (JD-1) Invader--another plane that hasn't got a lot of models....I may consider doing a model of it eventually, even though it does have (gasp!) propellors.

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