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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:05 pm 
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Gents, the animals I'm having to wield the Clue-Bat against are over on a WWII-miniatures-gaming board, but one of the key reasons was that we went "all in" on folding wings, while Japan doesn't seem to have done more than enough to fit 'em down the elevator-well, the Brits are a little uncertain. With Grumman wing-folds, you can stick a complete bird in the same space as a disassembled fuselage-on-gear... the Corsair's wing doesn't fold far outboard of the gear either, it's just that that straight-up fold creates "headroom" problems which is why they were restricted on Brit carriers and the FAA had to have clipped-wingtip variants.

And I'm factoring out the then-freakishly-big Essexes and Midways, too, I'm just comparing with Enterprise so I'm kneecapping the USN a little in the matchup.

If any of you guys are miniatures-wargamers, PM me and I'll shoot you the URL.
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Except for the Dauntless--which had non-folding wings, and only some of the Wildcats had folding wings--some of them were also rigid.

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Yes, but the SBD was a small bird, and the non-folder Wildcats were gone before airgroups really started to grow.

Adoption of deck-parking (keeping some parked up on "the roof") helped some too IIRC.

On "kneecapping", the only reason I did i was because a lot of the GameBoys eternally whine about [voice=whiny little epithet-of-choice]"US Bias, Americans get the best of everything, it's not 'FAIR'!"[/voice] so I wanted to take something a little closer to the best the Brits or Japanese could muster. (Never mind that we could develop science and tech and build stuff without worry about getting bombed, allowing us to build better toys, and total mobilization of available labor onto assembly-lines getting 'em out faster and more prevalent industrial development making 'em cheaper to produce... A "sleeping giant" indeed, as Yamamoto observed.)

And I must note again, I wouldn't have the ammo to put through the belt-feds into these idiots if it weren't for Rob's considerable assistance and a little help from Barrett Tillman too.

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