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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:25 pm 
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I'm working on the lovely Nieuport 28 but have a question about the machine guns. The guns seem to consist of a cylinder attached to a box. There are, however, two additional parts, that look like short rods with additional hook-like shapes.

I suspect these are the gun barrels that clearly project from the cylinder portions of the guns in various pictures. I don't, however, have any idea how these should be folded.

Am I right or are these something else? And how do I fold them? I was thinking that the rod portion might fold onto itself, but I'm at a complete loss with the hook.

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Rick


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:07 pm 
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I have no idea what those "hooks" are. My first thought was handholds and/or trigger fittings but they don't match anything on this picture of a Vickers 303 (the gun used on the Nieuport) ---

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I'd say scrap 'em. Just use the barrel and breech pieces.

FG more often OVER-explains what the parts are (e.g. WING, TAIL, WHEELS, etc.) - this failure to describe elements of the guns is a serious "breech" - excuse the pun!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm 
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i tried including the handles on mine but eventually decided to leave them off. it was too much work and i couldn't get them to look right
I always thought the gun-positioning on the Nieuport 28 was a little bizarre-both guns on the left side. can anyone tell me the reason behind it?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:52 pm 
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One thing you also have to realize is that FG reuses parts from other models that are similar.

The machine guns for the Neiuport probably started off as guns on another model that needed the handles.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:10 pm 
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Thanks, guys. unless someone comes up with a use for those things, I'll leave them off. I've looked at a few pictures of the real planes, and the lower machine gun certainly has no handles at all. I've never seen a good shot of the rear of the upper machine gun, but as airportkid shows, the Vickers handles are very distinctive and nothing like those hooks.

I have heard that the guns were mounted so strangely because of the limited space between the struts holding the upper wing. I suspect that if both were mounted on the top, the pilot would have a very obstructed forward view. This way, he can at least use one for sighting purposes, and still has a clear centerline view.

Rick


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