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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:57 am 
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Oops! I just read the FAQ on posting pictures -- I now know why I am having trouble. I need to get the pictures posted to a website before I can imbed them in a post.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:23 pm 
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You shouldnt have to go to another site; just add them as files where it says to browse to the file name. IIR there is a file max size but I can't remember what it is. I usually make sure may pictures are not larger than 1/2 meg.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:49 am 
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Here's the finished Sopwith F1 (sans rigging)...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:51 am 
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...forgot I had taken this view as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:19 pm 
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Looks great! Is the prop "real", or paper?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Heh-heh, thanks Tim... the prop template is Leif Ohlssen's "simplified laminated prop" downloaded from papermodelers.com

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:19 pm 
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That's a really nice job, good work.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:42 pm 
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Excellent! Welcome to the forum from another newbie! I want to build a Camel and I'll be looking at yours for ideas. Some people don't like to post build pics, but I know I like them... no matter what the hobby is.
I was going to suggest the 'simple prop', but I see you found it!

I like beard's idea for struts. I think I'll try skinny drinking straws next time. Flatten with a roller, insert florist wire and go for it! :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:09 pm 
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Awesome job! You got the wings pretty much perfect, with no visible warp. When I do bi-planes, the wings look all twisted and they do not match up at all. Great work.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:17 am 
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Thanks for the kind words everyone.

I'm going to attempt the Nieuport 28 as my next model.

Any suggestions as to how I should attempt rigging these models?

I assume that silver/grey cotton thread is what I should use, but can someone point me to some ideas re: how to fasten it and achieve a tight fit?

Thanks again for your encouragement and suggestions!

Willie
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:07 am 
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There are many ways to do rigging. On the handful that I've tried, I used some nylon string, black I think. I used the artificial fibers because they didn't fray and fuzz as much as cotton. At lest with the stuff I used anyway. I've also seen where people will stretch out a piece of regular thread, and drip a couple beads of super glue down them to make them near solid. Then, they cut the hardened string to length, put a dab of super glue at the ends, and stick into place.

I always used a small hook needle and actually sewed mine threw. Maybe that's why they looked so bad? I would then put a dab of super glue at the holes to keep the paper from ripping and the thread from sliding around.

i'm sure Bob Martin or Burning Beard have some other more fantastic and realistic way to do it. Rigging is another reason I don't do much WWI stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:19 am 
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My way isn't very realistic.... What I do is poke a hole were the end of the wire is going to be, the take a piece of straightened floral wire (the hard part is straightening the stuff) a little longer than the wire is supposed to be and slip it into the holes on either end. Then I secure the ends with a drop of tacky glue. Sanding the end of the wire with an emory board helps make the glue stick. I use the tacky glue because it doesn't leave a shiny spot.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:45 am 
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The prop is what really sets this model off. Doing the rigging wires will really finish this super model off. I bought different gage wires from my hardware store and when I did my GeeBee{Red and White}it was a lot easier then I thought. I hope my way was not cheating. I also run wire through my paper props to make them stiff. Any chance to could give me a link to your prop? I think I really need it. Was it hard to make it? Thank you, super great job of your model. wc


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:43 am 
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Thanks, WC!

The prop was downloaded from the papermodelers.com site (free registration) -- it was designed by Leif Ohlssen and is available from their download menu.

The prop consisted of 12 parts -- I printed the larger pattern (1/16) scale at 50% in order to get the 1/32 scale required for the camel. Assembly was pretty straight forward -- the most time consuming part was cutting out the parts!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:20 am 
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Leif also has a pattern for a 1/33 in the same prop that is usable. I found when building that type of prop (I redesigned it a little and used it on my DVIII) that you need to hold your mouth just right, and using colorful adjectives helps. I really think it is an elegant design, so now I plan on modifying it for use on other things, dayam I just can't leave well enough alone, lol.

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