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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:31 pm 
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Hi All,

Since I started tinkering at Fiddlers Green I have found my way to the buildings side of the modeling folder and never having done any that weren't bombed out ruins or something along those lines for military dioramas, I thought I would give them a try. Not being too sure about how this should work, I never was into model trains so their scales don't really mean a whole lot to me, I decided to try out a run at the "N" Scale buildings first as a sort of medium of the medium. Also since this is a first try, I figured I would go for the most simple one in the folder, the Bank Building. Nothing really complex, four parts, sides, roof, chimney body and cap. I scissored them out and creased and folded for a few and then broke out the glue. Aside from the roof panel sticking way out at the rear of the building, I wound up cutting a slice in the roof peak and bending the overhangs down a bit, I was not too amazed. Then I discovered the little banker figure on the sheet and decided to see what that was about. As you can see, he musta been a tall banker, but that is okay, at least I managed to trim out his cane without chopping it off. ;)

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The side view with him off to the side looks a little better. I will have to remember to not use a colored marker to try and edge things with as well. Even though I picked up lots of blue in the roof, my marker was just too dark but it did make for a good edging color to the bottom of the roof, just not on the side where the fold was, black would have been better.

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Nice bank Jay. The old buildings, while not as accurate as the new ones, have a nice old world charm to them. Can't wait to see more from ya!


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Thanks willygoat, for a quick build this one was hard to beat. I am exploring the other buildings to see which one piques my interest the most, I am sure it won't be one of the lighthouses quite yet.;)

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I would suggest Point Cabrillo. It's a real charmer. THe windows are actually textured with reflections of the actual landscape.


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Hi Willy,

I had to check it out since you mentioned it of course. I haven't gotten the CD yet but I went ahead and downloaded it as well. I have been working my way alphabetically through the buildings and lighthouses downloading them, just hadn't made it to the "L" section. I have been considering the Old West Railroad Station, one of the ones that caught my eye when I was checking over what came in the complete series, I downloaded and printed out the "N" scale version in keeping with my desired scale. With all these little buildings available I have been checking over what is available on some Model Railroading sites (oh yeah, just what I need, another hobby ;) :oops: ) A section of track would almost be a requirement if I am going to have a station and surprisingly, there are some fairly inexpensive pieces available. I am trying to figure out a way to come up with a platform to mount it on. With all my previous modeling experience, the terrain and road bed shouldn't be too difficult.

Keep watchin', somethin' will appear soon. ;)

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Hi All,

Having decided which one of the excellent Fiddlers Green buildings to build next, the Western Railroad Station, I wanted to figure out just how to go about doing this. I visited the local hobby shop today to see just what sort of detail "store bought" N scale stuff might include. There seemed to be an either/or sort of thing going on. Either they were all plastic with molded details and texturing or a combination of printed card with some plastic added to furnish the 3 D effect here and there. Not that this is bad or anything, but I was curious to see how far the pros carried these things. It did make me think that a downloaded Fiddlers Green project with a few bits and bobs added plus some technics that modelers have used for a while would no doubt produce just as good if not better results.

I decided to start with the fiddly bits of the kit first since those would be the most difficult part of the kit. In this case they are the three smallest parts, the chimneys and stove pipe. To sort of help in my build up, I will try and show the parts as they appear on the page, cut out and finished with a bit of explaination as to how I managed to do what I did and why. So here goes.

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As you can see, two of the pieces, the stove pipe and smallest chimney are designed to fit over the peak of the roof. The circular stove pipe doesn't have a tab to glue to connect the sides so I used a scrap bit of the same card inside once I had formed it by rolling a small drill bit over the inside surface of the part while resting it on an old mouse pad. The give of the mouse pad does the shaping for you for the most part. Once I had it where I could hold it in my fingers and have it stay round I put a little White glue on the tip of a toothpick and applied it sparingly to the edges where they met. While it was still wet, I smeared a bit more glue inside on both sides where the ends met and slipped a precut and preshaped the same way as I had shaped the part: bit of card inside to bridge on either side of the two edges. Rolling it between my fingers gently to keep the round shape going while the glue set a bit made sure that the edges did not spread out a bit. Once things had dried somewhat, I used the same drill bit and mouse pad to seal the deal by rolling the assembled part on the mouse pad some more to make it nice and round.

The conical cap was shaped on a pencil point first using the mouse pad trick again. It is necessary to orient the pencil at an angle to keep the point at the crown while you do this so you wind up with a conical shape. Once I had it shaped, I noticed that I needed to trim the top of the glue tab down just a little bit at the top so that it would form the shape I was going for. I took off about a 1/16 of an inch from the top of the tab and then glued the part together rolling it around in between my finger tips and once satisfied it would stay in that shape, I used a pair of needle pointed mini pliers to squeeze the tab and end together where they joined. I used a Sharpie Marker in a matching color to the part to edge color the top part and run down the seam line so no white edges showed through. Here is a picture of the parts, completed piece and the tools I used to form them.

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The squared off chimneys were somewhat easier to deal with. I used a pair of flat square tip mini pliers to make the right angle bends in the parts first, then bent the tabs last. As one fits the peak and the other fits to one side of it, the one that fits to the side has a pair of generous glue tabs to help it stay in place. Using the tooth pick to apply a small amount of white glue to the end tabs I formed the parts and sealed the tabs down with a squeeze from the needle nose mini pliers. While these were drying, I turned my attention to the caps for the chimneys.

Looking at the printing on the chimneys showed a row of light brown cap stones on the tops of each. The cap parts are actually oversized so you can form a lip all around to make a glue tab. Using my hobby knife to slice the edges to form the first bend lines then using the flat nosed pliers to make precise bends for them showed me where the next set of bends needed to go to form the caps into tiny tray shapes that would fit inside the tops of each chimney. Pushing them down inside the chimney forms and orienting the two printed openings to go the same direction I used my glue application toothpick as a combination tool to get them down all the way. I held the two parts upside down on the cutting mat to level the parts then added some glue from the inside to attatch the parts to one another. Once dried, I used a black Sharpie to edge color the tops of each so no white card shows up at the tops. So here are the two chimneys and the tools I used to make them, aside from the toothpick. ;)

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Since I am working with card for the most part to make this kit up, to get the depth that I want to add to some of the parts, I will be using three print outs of the sheet to get the parts and pieces that I need. A small price to pay but as I go along you will be able to see what I am doing to give it a more 3 D effect and add a bit more detail overall. Bear in mind that this is not required to turn out this kit, it is just something that I like to do with them. I am basically trading time invested in the kit to arrive at something that would cost money in initial outlay at the hobby shop. I am using 110 pound card to print this out on to help make things a bit thicker as well as provide stability to the parts as I work with them. So stay tuned and watch for more.

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That's a very detailed explanation there Jay, looking good too! :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:56 am 
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Thanks CD,

I like these older kits, there is so much you can do with them if you take a little time and care in putting them together.

I started working on the sides of the building next. I made a fourth print so I could demonstrate what I was doing in keeping with the theme I started here. The more detailed side that would be facing out on the section is the one with the arches. Looking at the sheet you can see where the directions show you to cut out the arches as well as leaving a little white strip below each to represent the depth. To get the 3D effect that I was looking for, I decided to use three complete printouts of the parts. By cutting out the doors, windows and archways on the top two I could glue all three together to make a somewhat thick but better looking side panel. I have also scored a 6 section package of "N" scale straight track and some cork track bed, the track was less than $4 and the track bed was all of $.98. Not an expensive but necessary purchase for where I am going with this little project. You can also see at the bottom of the archway cut outs that I have saved an extra set of the posters that are on the wall at the back of the arch.

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The back section of the building was trimmed out the same way as the front. I do like the extra detail of the cats in the windows as well as the bushes printed on these little panels.

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With the panels cut out and glued together it is time to turn to the roof. For this part of the project I just used one thickness. I did pre color the underside so that it would match the colors on the top of the roof as well as run a set of lines on the ends.

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The next part of the building is the awning that hangs over the front. This part has a nicely done serrated edge that could be a real trial if you tried to cut it out with a pair of scissors following the little curves in this scale. Instead I chose to cut it out following a straight line on the outside of the tips of the curved sections once I had the part free of the sheet.

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Once the part was cut out, it was a simple matter to trim out the edge with a hobby knife. Once the shape of the little segments was cleaned up, I cut a slice on the black separating lines of each segment so that these are free to be manipulated a little once the awning is in place.

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Next up comes assembly of the parts since I have most all of them except the sign finished out, so stay tuned for some more in the saga of the Railroad Station. :)

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Hi All,

Having a nice lazy day off from the Salt Mines has motivated me to doing some serious bench action. I glued the parts together lining things up as best I could. I did have to trim one of the front panels' top corners a bit so that it would not interfere with the fit of the roof panel, it over hung the side folded panel where you make the glue joint so it was required. Other than that, parts fit was pretty good. Once I got the roof panel in place, I decided to add a second panel over the first, it made for a more realistic appearance with a row of the bottom one peeking out like a run of slates would on a real roof. Folding the awning up and adding it was mostly getting things centered on the one side. The little chimneys and stove pipe fit nicely and glued down securely in the locations where they were supposed to go. I did use a marker to cover part of where the stove pipe went, the printed location marker showed up just a little passed where the round pipe went. The "Train Station" sign for the roof got cut into two pieces and laminated to a bit of scrap card to thicken it up a bit. I trimmed the edges with a brown Sharpie and centered it on the roof. The last items I added were a set of awning support posts. I made these from some blue colored square toothpicks I had on hand, I chose blue just to brighten things up a bit.

First is a flash shot of the front so you can see up under the awning.

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Without the flash, you can't really see underneath it very well.

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Here is the opposite side. Without an awning or flash you can really get a feel for the depth that using two cut out copies over the third full print allowed for.

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This is the end where the two doors went and gives you an idea of how long this little building is.

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Finally a shot of it with a set of "N" Scale railroad tracks and road bed in front. As you can see, it is right in scale for size with the real deal.

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I am not done with this quite yet. I still have a platform to build for it with a little scenery to add, but these pictures give you an idea of what the straight kit builds up into. Not a bad little model at all with the suggested additions right from the kits' page. Stay tuned for the rest as I get time to work at it.

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That looks great Jay! The added depth looks just amazing. Great stuff :D


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Thanks Willygoat.

These little building kits are great fun and with a little care and time can be made to serve as good additions to railroad layouts. That they come in three or four different scales is a bonus. I like the "N" Scale size since it takes up far less room as well as being a lot less expensive than the more common "HO" Scale.

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I have to agree with willy, the 3D effect really adds to the overall effect. Lovely work Jay :D.

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Very nice, Jay! now you just need a train on your tracks :wink:

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Thanks Guys,

I do have my eye on Walthers "little Joe" beginners train set. Mostly because it has a vintage steam locomotive as the engine in the set. It also contains the required track, DC convertor and other needed items to make it work right out of the box.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:45 am 
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Hi All,

Having completed the two Fiddlers Green projects that I had started with, I decided to give a second building a shot for my next build. Looking through the various Western styled buildings the little "two fer" Assay and Land Office combo called to me.

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When I started cutting it out a few things jumped out at me. The two cats on the side of the Land Office was another touch that caught my eye. One of them sitting on what appeared to be either a barrel or a box, I knew that it was something that I could add. When I started cutting out the Assay Office, the front doors being ajar also caught my eye. I knew that I wanted to add an interior since the open doors were just begging for that. The two buildings also had porch extensions that were just flaps sticking out from the front of each. Having seen wa-ay too many westerns as a kid growing up, I knew that these would have had a set of posts holding these up. The work that I had done on the Western Rail Road Station also clued me in as to how hard it was to keep this little bit of detail from leaning this way and that as the glue set so I also decided to set the pair of them onto a wooden platform as a way of getting around that problem. It also served as a way of having a base for these two to sit on once I got further into building them.

I started my project by making a trio of print outs with which to work. This was done to provide ample material to work with to create my interior for the Assay Office. I clipped out the parts that I knew would be required first. When I cut the main building parts out, I also cut out the back doors of each so that I could do the 3D bit that I had done to the previous Rail Road Station. I also clipped out the windows from the second printout so that I could layer them on the walls of the buildings to make them stand out a bit. The two signs on the fronts were also clipped out along with the little shovel, pick, and gold pan from the top of the Assay Office. for the same reasons. I also cut out the front door from the second printout so I could add it to the front of the Land Office. When I was cutting that out, I noticed what appeared to my eye to be a small sort of hanging open topped bin, I suppose it was to put mail or papers in when the office was not open.

Armed with all my suppositions and imaginings I started with the interior first. I managed to come up with four sections of the walls that I could cut out to add the inside walls and the third printout was used to add the floor. To get started I folded up sections of scrap into ledges on the front and two side walls inside the Assay Office at the bottom, this would give my floor some support. Once they dried, I cut and placed the floor first then glued up the side walls and back wall about halfway back. I made up a counter and its' top from some of the cut out scraps of walls and then added a map by drawing one up and glued it on the wall behind the counter for a bit of eye candy if one chose to look in the open doors.

The two rear doors of each building got two sections of door openings glued in place before adding the cut out doors, these were left oversize to offer a bit of gluing space. With the inside work done, I glued up the sides and formed them into the required shape. Once they had dried I started adding the second exterior windows, doors, and letter bin for the Land Office. Before adding these details, I made sure to edge color the parts with either a black or brown Sharpie pen so that I wouldn't have a lot of white showing around the edges to spoil the effect. With the false fronts folded over and glued down I could add the roof panels. I did cut down both of these as they looked a little oversized to my eye. The interior of the Assay Office rood panel was treated to some color with a reddish brown Sharpie which also bled through and changed the color of the top of the roof. Both roofs got edge colored like the other parts. The color change on the Assay Office is not a bad thing as it does make the two building roofs look a little different and offers a nice contrast, some mistakes are good. ;)

When I added the two porch roof panels, I also colored their undersides and edges before gluing. That one little touch does eliminate the white edges and undersides that detract from the finished models. Since I wanted to add some posts to the fronts of these two additions it was necessary to start to figure out how to make the base and the posts and supports. I chose to use balsa wood as I have a pretty good lumber yard of it laying about. From past experience, I chose panels of various thickness when I purchase balsa wood. It is easier to store panels rather than precut thin strips and when I need some strips, a ruler and hobby knife can offer a lot of strips in short order.

With a lot of strips cut out, I laid out a row of the strips, figured out how much room I wanted for the two buildings and laid a rule over the row at the desired mark. Slicing a bunch of strips out gave me what I needed in the same length and I just laid the entire base out at one time. I chose three sections of the balsa to act as cross pieces and laid them across the bottom. Holding down the center cross beam while applying a layer of White Glue to the whole section and spreading it out with a bit of scrap, then changing to the other side and repeating the process had the base together in less time than it takes to describe the whole thing. Once the glue had dried, I used an orange Sharpie to color stripes the length of the individual strips then used a brown Sharpie to go over the whole thing letting some of the orange show through to create a wood grain effect.

I did the same thing to color individual strips of balsa left over for the posts and supports under the porch roof panels then cut them to size. With the builidings glued down to the base, I could measure and cut the supports and posts from my stock of ready colored strips. I did add the inward opening doors to the front of the Assay Office as well as a couple of steps leading up to the doorways of each buildng before adding all those posts, made it much easier than fighting my way past the forest of posts that would be in the way other wise.

So after a few evenings of working, here is my little Assay and Land Office combo. The base sort of warped up, but when I go to glue it down to a more permanent setting, that will get corrected. The Glue drying is most likely the cause of that problem but it is not a big deal.

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So there you have my third bulding set that I have managed to figure out. These of course are in "N" scale as is the other builidngs. Purchasing pre built models to populate a rail road layout at the cost of $8 to $35 a pop is one way to do it, I find that constructing my own offers a great lot more satisfaction and a larger variety for me to add to the overall look of the layout. I think it is time to work on another aircraft, got to see what sort of "flight" of fancy I can make out of one of them. ;) :lol:

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